tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8067827827765778211.post4314140754849249484..comments2023-09-28T04:32:44.757-05:00Comments on St. Blogustine: Girl Sits During Pledge, Another Girl Criticizes Her And Gets Suspended. Why?Matt K Cassenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09532145678992291445noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8067827827765778211.post-14107345563731568782009-09-08T12:25:31.061-05:002009-09-08T12:25:31.061-05:00Oh, no -- not assuming any such thing about her or...Oh, no -- not assuming any such thing about her or the folks who attend her school. <br />I am politically conservative and find there are a number of secular conservative movements that resent or disassociate themselves from religious conservatives. They are often very big on patriotism, but I see a danger in patriotism when it stands alone without any outside moral system (your example being the obvious one). I don't think it's common, but I see enough of it that I'm a little uncomfortable watching my kids take the pledge -- that's all I meant.Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8067827827765778211.post-20759308602465312032009-09-08T12:12:05.580-05:002009-09-08T12:12:05.580-05:00A good example of what you're describing would...A good example of what you're describing would be Nazi Germany. And today, secular fundamentalism seems in itself a new religion with Green being its chief denomination. I don't see nationalism in America as being anywhere on the Left, only the right. And the Right seems NOT to have abandoned its faith in God.<br /><br />I did not notice a cross or crucifix dangling from the neck of the suspended girl, but I think it might be too premature to assume (if you are assuming, that is) that this girl is substituting nationalism for Christianity.<br /><br />Thanks for your comments.St. Blogustinehttp://www.stblogustine.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8067827827765778211.post-80935534525938055942009-09-08T11:01:08.423-05:002009-09-08T11:01:08.423-05:00Absolutely. I first ran into the idea that if you...Absolutely. I first ran into the idea that if you remove religion from the public square that conveniently opens up the spot for nationalism to become the new religion in writing from the 1920s. Certainly, we saw a century of that progression, and we have moved on from there to the kind of belief-system-as-religion that you see with the environmental movement and Marxism and etc.<br /><br />I'm just suggesting that when we throw back for a way of teaching our kids, we need to make sure we're throwing back to the time when they worshiped God instead of the environment, not a time when they worshiped flags instead of the environment.Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8067827827765778211.post-81623833607705299112009-09-06T12:52:04.618-05:002009-09-06T12:52:04.618-05:00But I have to disagree with you on nationalism bec...But I have to disagree with you on nationalism becoming the new religion. I think the Left could have argued that the right was doing just that in the 1950's through and into the 1990's, while it is apparent to me that the Left is making "Green" their new religion. And the Earth is their new God.<br /><br />It is not too uncharacteristic of the narcissistic Left to both worship the Earth as their God AND assume that they need to protect their God from the destruction of Mankind via carbon dioxide accumulation. <br /><br />Everyone praise the Earth and hold their breath!St. Blogustinehttp://www.stblogustine.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8067827827765778211.post-79614601943285962442009-09-06T12:20:08.471-05:002009-09-06T12:20:08.471-05:00It's funny, I am conservative but I now have s...It's funny, I am conservative but I now have something of a problem with requiring the pledge in school. I suppose once it might have been appropriate, when we had our priorities straight and love of nation was one of our loves. Now, though, it seems there is something of a move to make nationalism a substitute for religion, so watching my kids say the pledge is odd.<br /><br />In any case, you're right that young people should be able to talk about these things without getting suspended. If the talk was not well done, it's time for the teacher to teach them some manners.<br /><br />Just found you through quick takes, great blog.Mariehttp://twowaysofrenouncingthedevil.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com